by the way, the industry funds the nra. if the nra has a chokehold on the american political atmosphere, they have the money to do it. >> bill, help me understand a little bit more. i appreciate the end goal that you have in mind here of increased gun control and security, but are gun manufacturers really the place to go after? aren't they just sort of responding to the existing market incentives and the legal structure that exists? i mean, what ultimately are you hoping that they would do differently? >> i want them to stop selling, to begin with, military grade weapons and ammunition on the market. the vast majority of the cases these were legally purchased weapons. this is what we have to look in the face. the massacres horrify us, especially newtown losing 20 children. it is not like the guns gotten from criminal enterprises. they were readily available on the civilian market. we should not have that kind of weapon available to any civilian is the bottom line. i hope there will be an assault weapons ban passed in washin